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FOREVER (5x17)
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A review by Mikelangelo "MikeJer" Marinaro,
January 10, 2007

Writer: Marti Noxon
Director: Marti Noxon

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We're not watching the same Buffy anymore. With the move into Act III (now through S7) we find that the series has changed drastically in tone. "Forever" is the launching point of this new era and it proves to be an underrated, important, and dark episode which often gets overshadowed by "The Body" (5x16). Two primary things are happening here. The first is Buffy trying to cope with the wave of responsibilities forced on her, and the other is Dawn attempting to ressurect Joyce through black magic. With the exception of a clunky fight scene, both of these threads work together exceptionally well and force Buffy to face the emotion she's trying to bottle up in order to get things done.

Before I talk about anything else I want to mention how much I enjoyed the attention paid to how everyone responds to Joyce's sudden death. Willow is visiting her mom a lot, Spike brings flowers for Joyce, and Giles turns on the same music him and Joyce listened to during "Band Candy" (3x06) while under the candy curse. These are all beautiful little touches and nods to continuity that just feel right and that a lesser show would completely ignore. I really love that "Forever" doesn't forget about these important little character nuances, as it really helps bring home how real these characters are.

Anyway, the episode begins in a funeral home where Buffy has to pick out a coffin for her mom's funeral. The coffin salesman says some extremely pretentious things to her that make it obvious all he cares about is getting Buffy's money. I also went through this despicable price gouging when my grandmother died. These funeral homes are out to gain extra money by taking advantage of your sorrow. It's sick and very painful, although when I say this I can't speak for all funeral homes. This entire introduction scene already shows how cut off Buffy is from her emotions. Now that her mom's gone, all of these enormous and new responsibilities have been thrusted upon her. Buffy's only way to cope is to blot out all emotion and just get things done. In essence, much of the shock and numbness witnessed in "The Body" (5x16) is still present for her, but now only her.

All Buffy can see right now is what must be done in the next couple minutes. After a wicked cool fade to black in the cemetary that is a literal metaphor for how quickly her life has also turned dark, she tells Angel "The funeral was... it was brutal. But it's tomorrow that I'm worried about." Angel replies, "What's tomorrow?" Buffy answers, "That's exactly what I don't know." Nothing is certain anymore in Buffy's future. She's abruptly entered adulthood and no longer has anyone to help guide her through though those rough first years where one doesn't have a clue what they're doing or where they're headed. Having a strong family who can help provide a roadmap for you makes this period of life significantly easier. Without it? Void space.

With all her immediate responsibilities, funeral et al., Buffy hasn't yet realized her biggest responsbility of all: Dawn. Buffy is now functionally Dawn's mother, and Buffy is in no way ready or prepared for this responsibility as we can see in ample doses from now through S6. This is the beginning of a really rough time for Buffy and she's going to have to feel her way through it. Angel points out, "You'll find your way. I mean not all at once, but..." and he's completely right. This is a process that will take quite a bit of time for Buffy. For now all that exists is mass confusion and immediate pressures. I'm tremendously happy that Angel showed up to at least offer Buffy one night of love, comfort, and guidance. The reprise of the Buffy/Angel theme song was beautifully worked in--I adore Angel beyond words for showing up here.

While Buffy is going through all of this, Dawn spends most of the episode trying to resurrect Joyce. For the integrity of the series I'm grateful Dawn fails (and that we don't even see ZombieJoyce). What this really leads into is the final, very tear-filled, scene where Dawn cannot believe she hasn't seen Buffy cry and that she feels Buffy has been purposely avoiding her. Of course, the truth couldn't be further from the truth, of which Buffy explains: "Dawn, I've been working, I've been busy because I have to ... I have to do these things, 'cause, 'cause when I stop, then she's really gone. And I'm trying, Dawn, I am really trying to take care of things. But I don't even know what I'm doing! Mom always knew." Dawn says, "Nobody's asking you to be mom." Buffy replies, "Well who's gonna be if I'm not? Huh, Dawn? Have you even thought about that!? Who's gonna make things better? Who's gonna take care of us? ... I didn't mean to push you away, I didn't. I just, I couldn't let you see me... Oh god, Dawny. I don't know what we're gonna do. I'm scared!" At this point the two of them collapse on the floor hugging while weeping, and their pain is palpable. Buffy's inner numbness finally cracks and what's left is a big, teary mess.

Before wrapping up I want to mention a couple more important tidbits. First of all is the beautiful speech Anya has about sex and life, which is in complete contrast yet directly tied to her confusion about death in "The Body" (5x16). Here she says, "Well she [Joyce] got me thinking, about how people die all the time and how they get born too and how you kinda need one so that you can have the other. And when I think about it that way it makes death a little less sad, sex a little more exciting ... I just think I understand sex more now. It's not just about two bodies smooshing together. It's about life. It's about making life ... I'm not ready to make life with you [Xander]. But I could. We could. Life could out of our love and our smooshing and that's beautiful. It all makes me feel we're a part of something bigger. Like I'm more awake somehow." Anya pretty much just said my analysis for me there. What a beautiful realization for Anya to make and then share with Xander. This is fantastic stuff.

Even after all the great stuff loaded in "Forever," there's some juicy development for Willow as well. Dawn begs Willow and Tara for help in ressurecting Joyce. Tara leads the charge in telling Dawn that, firstmost, "we [witches] don't mess with life and death" and second that they couldn't even if they wanted to. We see a consistent opinion on the matter from Tara, that "witches can't be allowed to alter the fabric of life for selfish reasons." As Tara is talking we can see very clearly that Willow is not seeing things the way Tara is and doesn't even seem to understand why Tara thinks trying a ressurection spell would be so bad. Willow plays along with Tara even though she clearly doesn't agree, which is why she takes the initiative in helping Dawn get the information she needs that will lead to finding the required spell. This is a huge indication of Willow's impaired judgement and of what is to follow for her.

As a whole "Forever" is an extremely good episode. It loses some points for there still being no proactive moves from Glory. What, she just conveniently stops going after Buffy for information about the Key because we have to spend screen time on Joyce's death and other character topics? Sorry, doesn't fly for me. The plot must be blended together better with the character threads. Aside from that issue and a couple smaller ones, though, there's nothing but good here. This is a vital and powerful episode that needs to be looked at a bit more closely before seeing the value in it. Once found, though, there's a whole lot of value here.



- Minor Pros/Cons (+/-)
Pros:
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Dawn's klepto problem begins here.
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Spike helping Dawn again just because he knows she'll be safer with him.
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The Doc is fairly creepy and awkward.
+  
Dawn invokes Osiris, a lord of dark magic with some resurrection capabilities (e.g. Osiris is used to bring Buffy back to life in "Bargaining Pt. 1" [6x01]).
  
Cons:
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Why'd Ben do such a crappy job killing Jinx?
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The entire fight with the Gora demon is very silly-looking.


- Quotes
XANDER:  
You going home?
WILLOW:  
I'm gonna stop by my mom's first. Been doing that a lot lately.
XANDER:  
Yeah I actually might stop by your mom's too. Well I'm not going to my place. Those people are scary!

ANYA:  
Well I just think I understand sex more now. It's not just about two bodies smooshing together. It's about life. It's about making life.
XANDER:  
Right. When two people are much older, and way richer and far less stupid!

BUFFY:  
It's gonna be light soon.
ANGEL:  
I can stay in town as long as you want me.
BUFFY:  
How's forever? Does forever work for you? That's a bad idea. I'm seriously needy right now.
ANGEL:  
Let me worry about the neediness. I can handle it.
:  
(they kiss)
BUFFY:  
I told you. You better go.
ANGEL:  
I'm sorry.

BEN:  
Tell my sister I'm sick of running into her Jawa rejects.
JINX:  
She bade me come to you. The news of your relationship with the Slayer...
BEN:  
We don't have a relationship.
JINX:  
But you attempted to court her, did you not?
BEN:  
You're more fun when I hit you.

GILES:  
Then useful you shall be. We can always use a hand.
ANYA:  
But you have a hand. A paid hand. A hand that isn't the hand of illegal child labor.
GILES:  
Anya!
ANYA:  
But of course it's wonderful that you find doing my job so distracting. I am unthreatened. Proceed.

SPIKE:  
So at least we know the old coot isn't completely daft. Look, you better let me snatch this egg thing on my own.
DAWN:  
No way! I'm going.
SPIKE:  
No, you are not. I've got no idea what's down there.
DAWN:  
You need me Spike. Somebody's gotta get the egg while you distract the Gora. Now come on.
SPIKE:  
Well what do you know. Bitty Buffy.


- Score
90/100 A-
Everything that an 'A' possesses, but with either a few more mistakes or slightly less power. Generally represents great episodes that are a tiny bit rough around the edges.


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- Comments (23)

1.bookwormJan 10, 2007 (Wed)
what I love of the B/A-scene is, that Angel doesn't force himself on B., as another certain character did, not so long ago.

And something I wanted to point out: Anya is (next to Tara) the "least affected" by Joyce's death, and that's why I love it so much, that she has the two speeches; the "no-sense"-making scene and the "sense"-making scene; because to have a moral by anyone even a little bit closer I would have hated the ep.

And with moral I mean, this thing "okay, x is dead, and we had to learn a lesson, and learned it", which you can find easily on any other show, and the ones learning the lesson being the closest to the deceased ones...

2.pjcJan 10, 2007 (Wed)
As Ben is Ben long enough to hold an intern's scary hours at least for the moment, I excused the Glory inactivity.

3.FRYRISHJan 10, 2007 (Wed)
I can't believe you have Dawn's klepto problem beginning here as a plus. ;)

4.DingdongalisticJan 12, 2007 (Fri)

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As Ben is Ben long enough to hold an intern's scary hours at least for the moment, I excused the Glory inactivity.
Actually, I think that is a pretty good explanation. However, I do agree with Mike about his attempt to kill Jinx being pretty sloppy. I always put it down to his impulsive personality, but for a medical type, it was surprisingly ineffective.

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I can't believe you have Dawn's klepto problem beginning here as a plus.
Me neither. What were you thinking, Mike? ;)

5.DingdongalisticJan 12, 2007 (Fri)
I'm really glad you gave this a ninety, Mike. That's the grade it deserves, and I've always thought that it was really underrated. The character interaction is perfect, and surprisingly deep and complex.

6.mikejerJan 12, 2007 (Fri)
Dawn's stealing problem beginning in an attempt to help ressurect her mom is an interesting way for that problem to begin. I agree it doesn't work very well in subsequent episodes, but here it does.

7.DingdongalisticJan 12, 2007 (Fri)

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Dawn's stealing problem beginning in an attempt to help ressurect her mom is an interesting way for that problem to begin. I agree it doesn't work very well in subsequent episodes, but here it does.
I wasn't being overly serious - I'd say it was pretty interesting in "Forever".

8.junJan 12, 2007 (Fri)
This was a great and thoughtful review. One anal-retentive note from a Jinx quote: bayed=bade. :)

9.NixJul 10, 2007 (Tue)
Osiris is, of course, the ancient Egyptian god of death, also associated with rebirth and fertility: another of those regularly resurrected gods closely associated with the turning of the seasons.

His use in this ritual is entirely apt. It's not a random name plucked out of the air. (He's also one of the *oldest* gods about which anything is known at all.)

10.buffyholicNov 27, 2007 (Tue)
Great review, mike. You really gave it the rating it deserves. The episode is so dark but amazing. I also love that small touch with Giles, listening to the same music they listened in Band Candy. This one is another cryfest for me. Amazing.

11.Plain SimpleFeb 28, 2008 (Thu)
Indeed Osiris is the old Egyptian god. Isn't he also the one Willow omplores to bring Tara back when she dies? It makes a lot of sense to use his name in resurrection incantations I guess.

12.StephJul 14, 2008 (Mon)
This episode reminds me GREATLY of a story I read in high school entitled "The Monkey's Paw" by W. W. Jacobs.

Here's the plot summary for that story.

Heedless of the Sergeant Major's warnings about the cursed nature of the monkey's paw, Mr. White, encouraged by his son, Herbert, carelessly asks for £200 for the house payment. They do not get the money straight away and so they all think the talisman is a joke. However, his wish is granted, but in a horrific manner: he receives a payment of £200 compensation as the result of the death of his son Herbert, who is "caught in the machinery" and mangled at his workplace.

Following their son's funeral, Mrs. White tries to convince her husband to wish their son back to life, which he reluctantly does. Nothing happens and the couple, crushed by the disappointment, retire to bed.

Later, they hear a knocking at the door. The wife realizes that Herbert had to journey from the cemetery to their house, accounting for the delay. She rushes downstairs to open the door, but Mr. White has been seized by terror, recognizing the horrible creature that must wait upon their doorstep suddenly makes a third wish, and the knocking at the door ceases before Mrs. White can open it in time to see her son.


Do you think Marti Noxon had this story in mind while writing and directing this episode?

13.macugaAug 5, 2008 (Tue)
Steph: exactly. This is a variant on the classic "hero attempts to resurrect deceased loved one, who comes back horribly wrong."

Personally, it reminded me of Stephen King's "Pet Semetery" (which I watched at 13 and gave me nightmares for a year or so afterwards!). Of course, as you'd expect from a King story, the deceased ones actually *do* come back--they're not mercifully banished at the last minute. First the slain pet cat comes back, then the doctor's child, and finally his wife (who is initially killed by his demon child).

When I watched this episode, I was powerfully reminded of Pet Semetery. And I was *so* grateful they didn't actually show us zombie-Joyce! That would have been unnecessarily traumatic.

14.macugaAug 5, 2008 (Tue)
RE Osiris: it seems the writers of "Buffy" and "Angel" enjoy using the names of old deities, but then demoting them to "merely" a demon or other lesser power. Osiris was lord of the dead, and one of the most powerful Egyptian gods (second only to Ra). I doubt he'd allow himself to be bullied by Willow, as occurs in S6.


15.SivJan 24, 2009 (Sat)
I love when Angel came to Buffy.

16.PaulaMar 10, 2009 (Tue)
A fun thing about this show is how those who have been watching it and paying attention can here immediately tell that we're not dealing with some harmless old man when Spike and Dawn enter Doc's apartment. A vampire doesn't need invitation to enter? Demon inhabitant much? Dawn must have been very distracted indeed not to get it before the growling and the scary eyes (which I do buy, no problem).

17.GuidoMar 13, 2009 (Fri)
I was saddened by Willow's decision to help Dawn. There's something deeper than simple naivete brewing. After all, her selfishness and reckless disregard for consequences nearly destroys all of humanity in "Grave." I never fully understood how she got there. We see the incremental steps, but nothing about Willow the charming teenager fully explains, in my mind, Willow the veiny, vengeful witch bitch. Was her childhood too repressive? Did she grow up too fast? Was she under too much pressure to be perfect? Was she teased and tormented one too many times in school? Is this Cordelia's fault? :-) What is the ultimate "theory of Willow" that explains this?

18.EmilyMay 31, 2009 (Sun)
I never saw Willow's actions here as part of her path to Dark Willow. I thought she was actually trying to help Dawn understand about death and resurrection, like she told Tara. Did anyone else think so, or is it just me?

19.TaraJun 5, 2009 (Fri)
What was interesting to me is the different ways Willow and Tara respond to Dawn's wish to resurrect Dawn. Tara immediately and strongly emphasises how morally wrong it is to mess with life and death, Willow however, only says that such a spell would be unlikely to work. It really highlights how different their attitudes to magic and ways of thinking have become and nicely sets up Season 6.

20.KristaJul 23, 2009 (Thu)
I am a Buffy and Angel fan! I was very happy to see Angel come back. He stil loves her even though they must be separated. A very beautiul scene. Very comforting yet extremely sad.

21.SeleneJul 24, 2009 (Fri)
I never thought Willow's actions were selfishly motivated; I always saw them as seeing someone she cared about in pain and wanting to help that person.

Hated Xander getting in Spike's face about Spike bringing flowers, but loved Spike defending what he was doing:

SPIKE: I liked the lady. Understand, monkey boy? She was decent. (Xander and Willow exchange a look) She didn't put on airs. She always had a nice cuppa for me.

Willow looks sympathetic.

SPIKE: And she never treated me like a freak.
XANDER: Her mistake.
SPIKE: (scoffs) Think what you want.

He throws the flowers to the ground and stomps off.

XANDER: Un ... believable.

Willow looks at Xander, bends to pick up the flowers.

XANDER: The guy thinks he can put on a big show and con Buffy into being his sex monkey.
WILLOW: (looking at flowers) Xander... (he looks at her) He didn't leave a card.


However the Ghora demon didn't really seem all that realistic and the eggs looked like Nerf footballs.

22.KateSep 5, 2009 (Sat)
Anyone else think Angel was acting a bit out of character? A bit colder and a bit more evil than usual? Just a bitty bit- I think it might of been a subtle hint at what last happened in 'Epiphany' in Angel, and how they aren't pretending that didn't happen on Buffy.

23.Nathan.TaurusNov 16, 2009 (Mon) @ 7:41pm
Why would Spike help Dawn do something so stupid? Sure, he can protect her, but I don't think he would help as much as he did. The Doc was cool and he had a tale, which reminded me of the giant cobra that could seek out The Key. This was something I thought about when he pulled a strand of her hair and studied it then when his eyes blackened when he looked into her eyes.

I liked the scenes with Giles listening to 'Tales of Brave Ulysses', and Buffy's heartfelt speech to Dawn about the future.

For me this episode was somewhere around a 75 or so.
Side note: Notice how the fluid inside the Gora egg was similar to the telepathic demon's blood in 'Earshot'.


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