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| Writer: | Jane Espenson |
| Director: | Michael Lange |
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I'm going to be relatively quick with this review because, honestly, there's not much to really say about it. The main plot is very uninteresting and Angel's return is completely useless, but the episode is so damn funny that I genuinely don't care. The sheer amount of quotes I had to have below is further proof of that. Buffy is absolutely adorable, focusing completely on trying to have a successful Thanksgiving dinner while Willow gets all defendy for the Native Americans, Xander gets some mystical syphillis, Anya continues to make me laugh, Giles is highly sarcastic, and Spike joins in on the fun while being tied to a chair. I'm sorry people, but sometimes I have to sit back, put my plot concerns aside, and just enjoy the characters interacting with each other using the trademark witty dialog of this series to its full extent.
The episode begins with Buffy displaying some progress with her 'honing' abilities that Giles said she should have way back in "Welcome to the Hellmouth" (1x01). I really like how this scene is completely the opposite of the cliche. Instead of a scared boy running in the woods being surprised and killed by a vampire, it's Buffy with a smile on her face who he sees. Yet in an even more amusing twist, it turns out that for the vampire it is a cliche after all! The vampire's scared in the woods and the Slayer comes out and kills him. I bet that's what sires tell their 'offspring' to spook them when they're young. Very clever writing. It's also worth noting that Buffy senses Angel in the area in this scene as well as two other times in the episode. It continues to show that the connection these two have will likely never fully go away.
There's a few important things worth noting. One is Buffy's hilarious obsession with having a nice Thanksgiving dinner in which Giles gets stuck with all the cleanup. Buffy is so much fun to watch all episode. She's also cute, cozy, and very adorable. Another thread to note is Willow's protest of Thanksgiving ("it's about one culture slaughtering another") and her reluctance to fight Hus, the avenging spirit. I can buy that Willow would be a little against the holiday, but I think she wanders into the realm of "out of character" when she still shows reluctance to killing Hus after she finds out he's killing Xander with diseases and has killed a teacher and a priest.
The most important issue involves Spike's entrance to the Scooby Gang as a tied-up prisoner. I love the scenes leading up to that, though, where he's longingly looking in at groups of other vampires feeding on people. It's kind of weird that I feel sorry that a vampire can't kill anyone -- Spike is quite the unique character! I also enjoyed seeing him so lonely that he'd even take Harmony's company and that she's wisened-up a tad and even has a stake under her pillow. Like I mentioned happened in "The Initiative" (4x07), Spike's subconcious love for Buffy is beginning to affect his decision-making process, and he doesn't even know it yet. Why else we he choose to go to Buffy for a place to stay? He could have just found himself a crypt to hang out in for a while and then steal some blood at the butcher shop to keep himself running.
The final fight is amusing enough and it ends with a nifty little message from Giles: "Violence does that. Instinct takes over." Willow also learns this little lesson and is able to enjoy the turkey dinner. The entire post-fight dinner is highly amusing and homely. Spike's tied to a chair watching all of them have a feast (I'm so happy they let him sit there) and Xander lets loose that Angel was there. That mistake ("oops") switches to a hilarious shot from Buffy's perspective where the whole group is staring at her. Spike has this huge and highly entertained grin on his face. That pretty much sums up how I feel about the episode.
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| Pros: | |
| + | Anya's back! Her dialog is a breath of entertaining air. She is so impressively hilarious. |
| + | Willow using the buried church the Master was stuck in as an analogy. More subtle continuity! Yay! |
| + | Willow talks about great spells with ears. Buffy says, "that's one fun little habbit you got there Will." |
| + | Willow and Xander both thinking Angel's evil at first. |
| + | Spike repeatedly asking for a brandy. |
| + | Spike being filled with arrows. |
| + | The bicycle cavalry shot. |
| + | Spike being entertained watching Buffy fight. |
| Cons: | |
| - | Hus gets an entire little speech in while he has Buffy pinned to the ground. Very cliche. |
| - | Quotes |
| ANYA: | Well, I think that's a shame. I love a ritual sacrifice. |
| BUFFY: | It's not really a one of those. |
| ANYA: | To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice, with pie. (Inscensed) What's she doing? Xander said he was going to dig. I want to see Xander dig. |
| BUFFY: | That part's just ceremonial. |
| ANYA: | Well, it bites! She's not rippling at all! |
| BUFFY: | Oh. Look, there he goes. Look at him. |
| WILLOW: | Very...Diggy. |
| ANYA: | Soon he'll be sweating. I'm imagining having sex with him again. |
| WILLOW: | Buffy, earlier you agreed with me about Thanksgiving. It's a sham. It's all about death. |
| BUFFY: | It is a sham, but it's a sham with yams. It's a yam sham. |
| WILLOW: | You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one. |
| WILLOW: | Ooh. We could not invite Anya. |
| BUFFY: | I don't know. She and Xander seem pretty tight lately. Look, pilgrims aside, isn't that the whole point of Thanksgiving-- Everybody has a place to go? |
| WILLOW: | Grumble, grumble. |
| BUFFY: | It'll be just like it was when I was a kid. Only without me building a fort out of my mashed potatoes. |
| RILEY: | Sounds like fun. |
| BUFFY: | It will be. Um, you know, if you don't already have plans... You should come. I'm a great cook... In theory. I've eaten a lot. |
| BUFFY: | Pretty darn scary. It more like a riot than a Ralph's. I thought I was going to have to use Slayer moves on this one woman who was completely hoarding the pumpkin pie filling. |
| GILES: | It's clear we're dealing with a spirit of some kind. It's very common for Indian spirits to change to animal form. |
| BUFFY: | It's plenty uncommon for me to freeze up during a fight. I mean, I had the guy, I was ready for the take-down, and I stopped. And Native American. |
| GILES: | Sorry? |
| BUFFY: | We don't say "Indian." |
| GILES: | Oh, right. Yes, yes. Um, always behind on the terms. Still trying not to refer to you lot as "bloody colonials." |
| BUFFY: | Ok. You know what? We need to boil those and put them through the ricer. |
| GILES: | I don't think I have a ricer. |
| BUFFY: | You don't have a ricer!? What do you mean? How could someone not have a ricer? |
| GILES: | Well, do you have one at home? |
| BUFFY: | I don't know. What's a ricer? |
| WILLOW: | Peas. |
| BUFFY: | These are frozen. |
| GILES: | What's all that? |
| WILLOW: | Atrocities. I got the full poop on the Chumash Indians and our fabulous buried mission. |
| BUFFY: | You said you were going to get fresh ones. |
| WILLOW: | Atrocities? |
| BUFFY: | Peas. They come in little pods. You were going to shell them. |
| WILLOW: | I didn't have time. I was busy reading about the Chumash war. |
| GILES: | The Chumash were peaceful. |
| WILLOW: | Oh, they were peaceful, all right. They were fluffy indigenous kittens, 'till we came along. |
| BUFFY: | They're gonna be mushy. |
| WILLOW: | They won't be mushy. |
| GILES: | (Excited) I like mushy peas. |
| BUFFY: | You're the reason we had to have pilgrims in the first place. |
| WILLOW: | I don't think you wanna help. I think you just wanna slay the demon, then go-- La la la |
| GILES: | And I think your sympathy for his plight has blinded you to certain urgent facts. We have to stop this thing. |
| WILLOW: | Ok, unfeeling guy. |
| GILES: | Willow, that's not fair. |
| : | (Buffy, perterbed by the conflict, retreats to the kitchen) |
| BUFFY: | I have to baste. |
| XANDER: | Happy Thanksgiving. |
| GILES: | Xander. You look like death. |
| WILLOW: | Are you ok? |
| BUFFY: | You didn't bring rolls? |
| XANDER: | Can we come rocketing back to the part about me and my new syphilis? |
| ANYA: | It'll make you blind and insane, but it won't kill you. The smallpox will. |
| BUFFY: | This is no good! It needs more condensed milk. |
| GILES: | Buffy, Xander's in real danger. Are you sure the solution is pie? |
| SPIKE: | (Desparate) Invite me in! |
| BUFFY: | (Amused) No! |
| GILES: | It's fairly unlikely. |
| BUFFY: | Will, you know how bad I feel about this. It's eating me up-- (to Anya) 1/4 Cup of brandy and let it simmer-- (to Willow) But even though it's hard, we have to end this. Yes, he's been wronged, And I personally would be ready to apologize-- |
| SPIKE: | Oh, someone put a stake in me. |
| XANDER: | You got a lot of volunteers in here. |
| SPIKE: | I just can't take all this mamby-pamby boo-hooing about the bloody indians. |
| BUFFY: | Uh, the preferred term-- |
| SPIKE: | You won. All right? You came in and you killed them and you took their land. That's what conquering nations do. It's what Caesar did, and he's not going around saying, "I came, I conquered, I felt really bad about it." The history of the world isn't people making friends. You had better weapons, and you massacred them. End of story. |
| SPIKE: | Hey, when do I get fed? |
| BUFFY: | Later. I hope the others are ok. |
| SPIKE: | You know what happens to vampires who don't get to feed? |
| GILES: | I always wondered that. |
| BUFFY: | Giles, plates. |
| SPIKE: | Living skeletons, mate. Like famine pictures from those dusty countries, only not half as funny. |
| BUFFY: | You can have gravy. That has blood in it, right? |
| SPIKE: | Do you know what else has blood in it? Blood. |
| BUFFY: | (to Hus) You. Listen, maybe I wasn't clear before about how terrible we all feel. 'Cause we're trying to help! |
| SPIKE: | What's going on!? |
| GILES: | It isn't working. |
| BUFFY: | Uh, you can have casinos now! |
| ANYA: | Well, that was a waste of time. |
| XANDER: | I think he thought we were crazy. |
| WILLOW: | Maybe if Anya hadn't opened the conversation with "Everybody got both ears?" |
| ANYA: | I liked his wife. She gave me pie. |
| ANGEL: | (Appearing before them) Willow. |
| XANDER: | Angel? |
| ANYA: | So this is Angel. He's large and glowery, isn't he? |
| XANDER: | He's evil again! |
| ANGEL: | I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that? |
| WILLOW: | Angel's here to protect Buffy. |
| ANGEL: | (Annoyed) I haven't been evil for a long time. |
| SPIKE: | A bear! You made a bear! |
| BUFFY: | (Apologetic) I didn't mean to. |
| SPIKE: | Undo it! Undo it! |
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| 85/100 |
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Just misses the mark of excellence. Essentially, a great episode that's rough around the edges and/or slightly flawed. Extremely fun to watch.
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| 1. | Vampkatt65Nov 16, 2006 (Thu)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| I love this episode! Spike sitting full of arrows and wigging out about the bear is too funny. I liked Buffy in the midst of all the fighting still worried about fixing the perfect Thanksgiving dinner. She's not aboout to serve a subpar meal even with the whole gang under attack, her Mom would be proud! One thing though, why did Spike not get fed? |
| 2. | TranquillityFeb 11, 2007 (Sun)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| The important thing for this episode is that we see Buffy building her family! This team sitting down to thanksgiving dinner is the team that she takes into the final battle. This episode is so important in the structure of the entire series. The importance of Angel's return is purely to show that he is outside Buffy's world, looking in and is not really part of it anymore. This is contrasted to Spike who is outside, looking in to the world of vampires because of the chip. Cheers |
| 3. | junMay 20, 2007 (Sun)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Y'know, I know Season 4 has the lame Initiative and the lame Adam, but... it also has insanely cute Buffy! I swear, she has never been more adorable than this season. Even /I/ am falling in love with her! |
| 4. | WorldWithoutShrimpJul 18, 2007 (Wed)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| I just rewatched this the other day, and this is an absolutely hilarious episode. One thing that you didn't mention in your review, mikejer, was that this is the first time (I think) we have any mention of what happened to Cordelia. That's not really a problem with this episode, I just think they should have addressed that sooner. Now, in the age of DVDs, it would be possible for someone not to know that she moves on to Angel, and for this hypothetical person it would seem for the first third of the season like she just disappeared. It doesn't matter too much, but I find it interesting. |
| 5. | AnneJul 18, 2007 (Wed)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| When in the episode did Cordy get mentioned? I don't remember and I've usually got this show memorized. |
| 6. | WorldWithoutShrimpJul 19, 2007 (Thu)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Willow asks Angel if Cordelia is really working for him. It's in the scene at that coffee shop when Buffy is talking to Riley. |
| 7. | AeCSep 29, 2007 (Sat)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| There's also one incredibly subtle reference back to Band Candy. During the final fight (about 10 or 15 seconds into chapter 14 on the DVD), Buffy throws one of the Chumash, who lands and rolls next to Giles' LP collection. The album on the outside has a picture of Seals and Crofts, whom Giles scoffs at when Joyce mentions them in the earlier ep. |
| 8. | buffyholicNov 5, 2007 (Mon)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| This is hilarious. So many good things make this a very enjoyable episode, including Buffy´s obsession in having a perfect Thanksgiving, Spike tied in the chair, everyone thinking Angel is evil again and of course Anya. The humour is really amazing. |
| 9. | gabrielleabelleNov 10, 2007 (Sat)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| I adore this episode. If I'm feeling in the mood for some "lite" fun, I watch this one. The plot's not too important. Angel's pretty useless. But there are so many absolutely classic moments. I'm glad to see you rated it highly as I usually don't see it get much of a mention. |
| 10. | TonyJul 5, 2008 (Sat)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| They mentioned Cordelia in the second episode I'm pretty sure, about how Buffy was acted Cordeliaesque or something like that. I always wanted her to come back for one more episode to visit. Too bad she didn't. |
| 11. | bigmoneygripOct 30, 2008 (Thu)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| I think most of the reasons why I like this ep have been mentioned. One of the funniest episodes. Foreshadowing: Is the church Willow mentioned that was buried in the 30s the same church she unearthed as Dark Willow in Grave? There was this GREAT series in the 70s with Darren McGavin called Kolchak: The Night Stalker. One ep was about a vengeful indian (native american) spirit that could transform into animals. I don't know the writer knew this, but I like the connection. Spike, Spike, Spike. You are one of my favorite TV charcters. James Marsters is perfect. God, didn't you feel sorry for him, huddled in a blanket, avoiding the Initiative? I really, really, have to remember the previous eps when he was really a nasty killer he was. I guess I'm too much of a sucker for the character that I only remember him in the scene where he convinced Buffy that he wanted to save the world for Manchester United. No matter. It appears Spike that I love is here - so I'll buckle up and enjoy the ride. |
| 12. | SamMar 13, 2009 (Fri)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Mike, I love ya but I gotta ask: Why did this episode get a B , based on your assertion in "Him" that episodes that are very funny but are otherwise irrelevant usually get a B or B- from you? Furthermore, why does this B episode complete your Top 25 when other humor-based episodes that you give an A to like "Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered", "Crush", and (I'm assuming, because how could it not) "Storyteller" are not on there? I'm not pointing fingers... I'm just wondering. |
| 13. | SamMar 13, 2009 (Fri)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Well, while we're on the subject of how funny this episode is, how about when Xander tells Anya to leave because she might catch all the diseases he has, and she just responds, perfectly, "We'll die together. It's romantic!" LOL |
| 14. | MikeJerMar 13, 2009 (Fri)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Sam, the answer to your question is that this is my favorite comedy episode in the series, so it gets an an unnatural little boost. Being as objective as I can, I realize that it has its flaws, which is why I didn't give it an A-range grade. But that aside, it gets more than "Him" because I actually find it overall more consistently funny, and I love how the comedy plays from the characters' personalities. There's a warm, homely, and cozy feeling it. In all honesty, it's hard to quantify. "Personal favorite." Just leave it at that I suppose. :) |
| 15. | TillApr 6, 2009 (Mon)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Willow breaks hugely out of character and gets wedged into the role of some kind of annoying half-baked caricature. Really, all the dialogue (from Buffy and Giles) related to Willow's implausibly absurd overreaction is unconvincing and not terribly well-written. It detracts from an otherwise enjoyable episode. |
| 16. | StilichoJun 3, 2009 (Wed)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Just a hint... The crossover episode of Angel (1x08 "I will remember you") that takes place after "Pangs" with Buffy visiting Angel in L.A. is really worth watching! |
| 17. | NixJul 11, 2009 (Sat)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Something I just noticed. Spike's accent is normal at all times throughout this episode... except when Giles mentions brandy, when Spike suddenly says 'I wouldn't say no to a brandy' in cut-crystal (or at least a much more upper-class accent than normal for him). I don't know if they actually had Spike's origin story worked out at this point, but it's nice to think that the mention of brandy might have pushed a bit of William out from behind the curtain. |
| 18. | IdaAug 12, 2009 (Wed)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Am I the only one who thinks that the woman who gets killed looks like an older Jenny Calendar? |
| 19. | SusanSep 18, 2009 (Fri)View This Person's Comments | Link | |
| You didn't mention the comment that Spike made when Anya and Willow were getting ready to check on the dean. Xander was lying on the couch, feeling sick and not planning to go with them when Spike said: "Oh, leave that one. He looks like he's going to drop any minute and I think I can eat someone if he's already dead." This is one of my favorite episodes for the reasons you all have mentioned already. I actually like the previous episode (The Initiative) and the next one (Something Blue) very much as well, probably because Spike's character really begins to develop and any episodes without him become less interesting to me. Incidentally, Joss Whedon lists this episode as #8 on his list of favorite Buffy episodes written by other writers. I am a new Buffy fan, having just discovered this great show in the last few months and have watched most episodes at least twice and some many more times. So glad that there are still active sites to turn to. |
| 20. | KatieJDec 5, 2009 (Sat) @ 10:07amView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Giles: Let's give him land! Buffy: Sarcasm helps nothing! Giles: It's sort of an end in itself. indeed. |
| 21. | G1000May 21, 2010 (Fri) @ 7:26pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Didn't like this one that much. It was pretty funny, but not nearly as good as a lot of people seem to think. Spike and Anya were great, though. I much preferred "Fear, Itself" in terms of laughs-per-minute (Giles with a chainsaw: cracks me up every time). |
| 22. | VictoriaMay 31, 2010 (Mon) @ 10:06pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| I love how Spike and Andrew both have to spend their respective times as tied hostages within the Scooby Circle before being tentatively let in. I'm sure Andrew would love the shared likeness in their harrowing tales. :P |
| 23. | yippers6Jul 10, 2010 (Sat) @ 7:59pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| this is another favorite of mine but i only liked the last part really but where is her mom thanksgiving is a family thing |
| 24. | nathan.taurusSep 2, 2010 (Thu) @ 7:36pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| I like the speech Spike gives about the truth of battles and that Giles agrees with Spike in this matter.
Spike tied to the chair with the arrows in him always gets a laugh. Bad: The injuries Buffy had during the battle disappear at the end of the episode. |
| 25. | dr. horribleSep 10, 2010 (Fri) @ 8:10pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Did anyone else notice how racist this episode was? Hus's whole speech was so stereotypical (plus there was that cheesy flute music). This was a funny episode but it bugged me. It seemed more like a season 1 episode: ridiculous plot but funny dialog and the whole gang fighting together. |
| 26. | John RobertsOct 24, 2010 (Sun) @ 8:09amView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| The Good -
The baddies were hilarously stupid. Spike on the outside looking in. Angel on the outside looking in. Spike in the fight. The "cavalry" coming to the rescue on bikes. Anya cracks me up. This was a very funny episode. The Bad - The baddies were often nonhilariously stupid. The Native Americans got screwed theme was cringeworthy. Willow is becoming a complete idiot. |
| 27. | John RobertsOct 24, 2010 (Sun) @ 11:37amView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| This episode felt like an inflection point.
Buffy running the Thanksgiving dinner was of course an open signal that she is now her own master. All those past authority figures are gone. Dad. Mom. The Watcher. The Council. The Principal. Angel. That other battle of the high school years, has also been resolved: Buffy is The Slayer. She knows and deals. No agonizing. Finally, Buffy has been desexualized. No more lusting after the virgin, as the camera and script did during the high school years. This time, when Angel stalks her, there are no more shots of Buffy alone in the bedroom or bathroom, trying on a dress. Now it's all business -- she's walking through an occupied house, and Angel isn't dreaming about her, he's matter-of-factly watching her safety. The camera lingers now on Xander instead. The coming-of-age story feels complete. Not that Buffy won't have tribulations and growth and love and disappointment in the future. But she's of age. These will be adult issues. |
| 28. | ellecatNov 9, 2010 (Tue) @ 1:02pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| this is one of my fave episodes as well. One of my top 10, in fact. |
| 29. | JohnJan 4, 2011 (Tue) @ 9:36pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Just rewatched this, and I have to say Willow does some pretty ominous foreshadowing here: "Don't you wonder what else is just buried under our feet?" This seems to be at least possibly a pretty interesting reference to Willow's eventual unearthing of the evil temple in the finale of S6. |
| 30. | deadlegoMay 4, 2011 (Wed) @ 7:50amView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| @John-#29 I think that it is definate forshadowing of S6 finale, I noticed that. This episode has my favourite line of the whole series... BUFFY:"I like my evil how I like my men...Evil!" |
| 31. | NixJul 1, 2011 (Fri) @ 2:33pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| I don't think that's foreshadowing of anything. This is Sunnydale. *Everything* is buried under your feet, from sewers filled with monsters and ancient buried churches and missions right up to a portal to hell. Pretty much every character comments on this at one time or another. |
| 32. | smallprint84Aug 2, 2011 (Tue) @ 4:19amView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| Buffy is also so cute wearing that black cowboy hat.
Funny: the "good girl" wearing a black hat instead of stereotype white. Also great quote: ANYA: Soon he'll be sweating. I'm imagining having sex with him again. BUFFY: Imaginary Xander is quite the machine. Hilarious!! |
| 33. | MashAug 8, 2011 (Mon) @ 5:36pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| A point that has little importance of any kind: Buffy in this episode seems to be able to cook perfectly fine, but come S6 & 7 when she is a "parent" [ugh] to Dawn she seems to lack in that department completely. Agreed, Angel feels useless here [perhaps Adam was the threat the entire time and had Angel been there the core 4 wouldnt have needed that spell?]. Oh Spike, you slay me. |
| 34. | MashAug 9, 2011 (Tue) @ 9:29pmView This Person's Comments | Link | |
| To John Roberts who wrote, "Finally, Buffy has been desexualized. No more lusting after the virgin, as the camera and script did during the high school years. This time, when Angel stalks her, there are no more shots of Buffy alone in the bedroom or bathroom, trying on a dress. Now it's all business -- she's walking through an occupied house, and Angel isn't dreaming about her, he's matter-of-factly watching her safety. The camera lingers now on Xander instead. " I have a few thoughts on this; For one thing, strictly physical - the first 2 and part of the 3rd season of Buffy, SMG has some "baby fat" or generally a little more weight on her. This weight [which for the record I preferred] gave her a more sexual body to focus this desexualization you mention. Later when SMG got insanely skinny, it was hard enough to make her believably strong let alone so lusty [not to say that SMG isnt extremely cute/pretty/ attractive]. Second, as a show, I think come 3rd season and definitely 4th, the show felt secure in its fan base. It had a core group of watchers [hahaha] and thus did not fall sway to random viewers who just want to see a random hot chick with cleavage. I think shows that are not as secure [except charmed, ugh] dress the ladies scantily to attract viewers. And lastly, Angel at first would feel lust towards Buffy but with time it became love. Not that he didnt feel lust towards her, he just also feels so much more than that especially now that he is away and just plain misses her. |
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